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{"id":6618,"date":"2022-11-08T08:01:56","date_gmt":"2022-11-08T07:01:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/?p=6618"},"modified":"2022-11-10T09:30:32","modified_gmt":"2022-11-10T08:30:32","slug":"6618","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/?p=6618","title":{"rendered":"Nie\u010do z Ni\u010doho"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Mimoriadne smutn&eacute;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pozeral som diskusiu profesorov Richard Dawkins &amp; Lawrence Krauss: Something from Nothing na Youtube. 40.20.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Richard Dawkins &amp; Lawrence Krauss: Something from Nothing\" width=\"900\" height=\"506\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/q0mljE9K-gY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Mojim z&aacute;verom z tejto diskusie bolo, &#382;e v podstate prezentuj&uacute; svoju vieru. To  je v poriadku. Ja tie&#382; ver&iacute;m a nem&ocirc;&#382;em dok&aacute;za&#357; to, v &#269;o ver&iacute;m (m&ocirc;&#382;em to hodnoti&#357;). Probl&eacute;m je v tom, &#382;e oh&yacute;baj&uacute; a popieraj&uacute; met&oacute;du, ktor&uacute; pou&#382;&iacute;vaj&uacute; na vysvetlenie toho, &#269;o (evidente) je, a &#382;e oh&yacute;baj&uacute; term&iacute;ny a pojmy, tak aby to vyhovovalo ich viere, dokonca pre m&#328;a &uacute;plne nepochopite&#318;ne (preto to pova&#382;ujem za smutn&eacute;), &#382;e evidentne  tak mimoriadn&iacute;, geni&aacute;lni a maxim&aacute;lne vzdelan&iacute; &#318;udia, &uacute;plne flagrantn&yacute;m sp&ocirc;sobom, ke&#271; sa domievaj&uacute;, &#382;e ich n&aacute;sledovn&iacute;ci to &#269;o? Prehliadnu? &#381;e to proste slepo pr&iacute;jmu? &#381;e povedia, to je na bud&uacute;ce uva&#382;ovanie? &#381;e sa to (m&ocirc;&#382;e) zmen&iacute;, ke&#271; budeme vedie&#357; viac-?&hellip; Je to oby&#269;ajn&yacute; kult.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ad &ndash; 14.30<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#381;e &#269;o je Ni&#269;. &#381;e my nerozumieme tomu, &#269;o je Ni&#269;. Tie&#382; som toho n&aacute;zoru, &#382;e si nevieme a mysl&iacute;m, &#382;e dokonca ani nem&ocirc;&#382;eme (v Tele) predstavi&#357; ni&#269;, &#269;o nie je Svet \/ Existencia (tak NEexistenciu [Ni&#269;] ako aj NIE-existenciu [Boha] &ndash; tieto  pomenovania s&uacute; vedomou chybou, lebo inak ich nem&ocirc;&#382;eme aspo&#328; trocha uchopi&#357;). Teda rozdielom oproti ich n&aacute;zoru je, &#382;e si to v Tele ani  nem&ocirc;&#382;eme predstavi&#357; a nem&ocirc;&#382;eme tomu rozumie&#357;. Ale nie&#269;o vieme, aj ke&#271; si ani to nedok&aacute;&#382;eme predstavi&#357; v Jednote t&yacute;chto tvrden&iacute;. Vieme &ndash; ako ve&#318;a (samzrejme nie v&scaron;etky) vec&iacute;, v ktor&eacute; ver&iacute;me a nevieme pozit&iacute;vne dok&aacute;za&#357; &ndash; poveda&#357;, &#269;o Ni&#269; nie.  Ni&#269; nie je len absencia nepr&iacute;tomos&#357; Nie&#269;oho. Ni&#269; nie je ani nepr&iacute;tomnos&#357; V&scaron;etk&eacute;ho, tak ako stoj&iacute; t&aacute;to veta, teda ak to nemysl&iacute;me ako vedom&uacute; chybu. Ni&#269; je &#269;lovekom nepochopite&#318;n&aacute;. Nie je mo&#382;n&eacute; si ju &#269;lovekom predstavi&#357;. M&ocirc;&#382;eme ju zahrn&uacute;&#357; do n&aacute;&scaron;ho &#382;ivota vedomou chybou. Ni&#269; \/ NEexistencia. Keby bolo Ni&#269; zasa len Nie&#269;im (o&oacute;&oacute;, ale vy nech&aacute;pete Ni&#269;, M&Aacute; to tieto Atrib&uacute;ty, &hellip; &ndash; Ak&eacute; Atrib&uacute;ty? Ve&#271; to  je NI&#268;!), &#269;o (by) sme vyrie&scaron;ili? Ni&#269; nie je Pr&aacute;zdnota (nepr&iacute;tomnos&#357; Nnie&#269;oho). &#381;iaden &#269;as. &#381;iaden priestor.  &#381;iadna energia. &#381;iadna my&scaron;lienka. &#381;iaden pocit. &#381;iadna hypot&eacute;za.  &#381;iadna absencia. &#381;iadna nepr&iacute;tomnos&#357; &hellip; NI&#268;! Tu sa rozpr&aacute;vame o samotnej &bdquo;Podstate&ldquo;(vedom&aacute; chyba, lebo Ni&#269; nem&aacute; Podstatu. Ni&#269; je ni&#269;) term&iacute;nu a slova Ni&#269; &ndash; m&ocirc;&#382;ete sk&uacute;ma&#357; Pr&aacute;dznotu ako  prejav Ni&#269; v Existencii, ale Ni&#269; je ni&#269;.  A ako z toho mohlo !sam&eacute; od seba! vznikn&uacute;&#357; nie&#269;o?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A to nie je mal&yacute; probl&eacute;m, ako (pri viacer&yacute;ch rozhovoroch) uviedol Richard Dawkins. Je to &uacute;plne z&aacute;kladn&yacute; probl&eacute;m. Podozrievam ho, &#382;e tu (ak tvrd&iacute;, &#382;e to je mal&yacute; probl&eacute;m) sa neriadi vedeck&yacute;m postupom, ale t&yacute;m v &#269;o chce veri&#357;. Ako pr&iacute;klad vyrie&scaron;enia &bdquo;ve&#318;k&eacute;ho&ldquo; probl&eacute;mu uviedol Darwinov prirodzen&yacute; v&yacute;ber. Uviedol pr&iacute;klady &scaron;&#318;achtenia, tak&#382;e je si vedom&yacute;  tohto poznatku medzi &#318;u&#271;mi &ndash; &#318;udia &scaron;&#318;achtia u&#382; tis&iacute;cro&#269;ia. Teda ak&eacute; prevratn&eacute; zistenia? Ako  vysvetli&#357;, &#382;e nie&#269;o sam&eacute; od seba vzniklo z ni&#269;oho je &uacute;plne in&aacute; v&aacute;hov&aacute; kateg&oacute;ria.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ke&#271; niekto tvrd&iacute;, &#382;e je mo&#382;n&eacute; pozn&aacute;va&#357; Ni&#269;, uv&aacute;dza&#357; &bdquo;atrib&uacute;ty&ldquo; Ni&#269; (Ni&#269; je NI&#268;, nem&aacute; &#382;iadne atrib&uacute;ty), raz prisudzova&#357; r&aacute;ciou mo&#382;nos&#357; posudzova&#357; a sk&uacute;ma&#357; Ni&#269;, raz odsudzova&#357; r&aacute;cio a tak vysvet&#318;ova&#357; v&scaron;etko ostatn&eacute; (<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/wp-admin\/post.php?post=3240&amp;action=edit\" target=\"_blank\">Vraj &ndash; Pre&#269;o by to nemohlo by&#357; in&eacute; ako pr&iacute;&#269;ina a n&aacute;sledok<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/wp-admin\/post.php?post=3805&amp;action=edit\" target=\"_blank\">&#268;o je Poh&#318;ad<\/a>), &#269;o vo svojej podstate tvrd&iacute;? Tu sa dost&aacute;vame, a&#382; k &uacute;plne z&aacute;kladnej podstate Slova &ndash; Ni&#269;. Dost&aacute;vame sa ku z&aacute;kladnemu pochopeniu Slova, v zmysle najz&aacute;kladnej&scaron;ieho  Poznania, ktor&eacute; je vyjadren&eacute; Slovom. Predsa ka&#382;d&yacute; vie (okrem &hellip;), &#269;o to znamen&aacute; Ni&#269;. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A HLAVNE &ndash; ke&#271; t&yacute;mto &uacute;vah&aacute;m pris&uacute;dite v&aacute;hu a vysvetlenie, tak v&scaron;etko va&scaron;e zd&ocirc;vod&#328;ovanie, v&scaron;etok v&aacute;&scaron; princ&iacute;p, v&scaron;etko, &#269;o tvrd&iacute;te, &hellip; je SPOCHYBNITE&#317;N&Eacute;!. Argument  popiera existenciu Toho &#268;o M&aacute; By&#357; Dok&aacute;zan&eacute;. Pre&#269;o by to malo by&#357; r&ocirc;zne na Za&#269;iatku ako Medzi ako na Konci?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mimoriadne smutn\u00e9. Pozeral som diskusiu profesorov Richard Dawkins &amp; Lawrence Krauss: Something from Nothing na Youtube. 40.20. Mojim z\u00e1verom z tejto diskusie bolo, \u017ee v podstate prezentuj\u00fa svoju vieru. To je v poriadku. Ja tie\u017e ver\u00edm a nem\u00f4\u017eem dok\u00e1za\u0165 to, v \u010do ver\u00edm (m\u00f4\u017eem to hodnoti\u0165). Probl\u00e9m je v tom, \u017ee oh\u00fdbaj\u00fa a popieraj\u00fa met\u00f3du, ..<\/p>\n<div class=\"clear-fix\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/?p=6618\" title=\"read more...\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0},"categories":[242,220,249,250,274,64,252,268],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6618"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6618"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6618\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6663,"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6618\/revisions\/6663"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6618"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6618"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mylion.sk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6618"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}